With ocd people they need certainty cause their brains are mentally ill. When people get grace from Gid like dreams healed Holy Spirit gifts they are given certainty they are Gods children. The rest of people have to believe they are saved if they never experience the grace of God in any tangible way or the spirit. Vids like Eliz and watchmen put so much fear and pressure to be certain I was saved. I tried so hard more than anyone because fear was driving me and also really wanting Gods love grace I seen him selectively give others while I still thinking he might give it to me if I just do this or that cause he had not done anything in my life to show me I was his. but I couldn’t stop the fear cause it was illness.
Instead of giving me certainty I was his God later showed to me with certainty mankind does not choose he does. I researched obsessively all things with God and revelations. There are hundreds of heaven hell testimonies. Eliz I believe was shown. Those Gid chooses he shows them things the world dont know in dreams and revelation so I watched so many. God shows favoritism and chooses people that died in sin and went to hell and gave them second chance of eternity. This proves not ALL is equal. Nothing compares to eternity and this select few was given second chance. Romans 11:5-8 proves this. Eternity is just too much guys you guys have not thought about it deeply enough how anyone could do that to anyone forever. The most is if you knew the real truth that people don’t even choose. God creates all people to sin and want sin without their choice. Yet unless God chooses a person they cannot be saved from that sin. So God uses that to say even tho He only chooses who gets to be saved, because people sin He is still in the right to condemn them. Even tho those people were created against their choice to be a sinner from start. Even if someone tries to repent it don’t count unless God grants it 2 Timothy 2:25 Phill 1:29 which is same as choosing you. That’s why all the instructions or word goes out as a general message but still only God chooses whoever he wants or nobody. I listened so many testimonies of people that didn’t want Gid believe or hear but God just came to them irresistibly. Those testimonies alone showed me something ain’t right with what I been taught cause God just sovereignty saved chose those people pouring love when they didn’t even want or look. That’s the predestination. Predestined isn’t the God foreknew who would choose him. To choose some and not others is loving some but not all the world the same unlike John 3:16. The world in 3:16 is the world of the chosen elect from all over the world. He chooses who gets saved and not and is why it says Rom 9:16 God chooses based on his sovereign grace not mans will or effort.
I seen 3 people that went to hell that God gave a literally a percentage of who goes to hell. Baxter, Gruver, abd woman in Korea. They all said God told them 98% of mankind God sends to hell. They said 9 of 10 Christians go to hell. Think about that.
Out of hundreds of testimonies God shows them specific people. A 6 year old boy was there because he played video games. One seen Billy Graham because he was a Freemason with all the presidents and high ups he knew. One thing I seen is that those God chooses he usually saves their family members. More evidence of Gid loving only those he elects and chooses. While others might want Gid so bad striving seeking but God will have NOTHING to do with them Rom 11:5-8. Bloodlines DNA matter as Gid showed there are Christians who have nephilim dna all over the world and can’t be saved. DNA is out of people’s control yet God still sends them to hell. Is that right or fair??? And that was not supposed to matter as we were taught that God loves ALL THE WORLD all my life to this day. It’s Not even close to true. The whole world has no idea who Gid really is. The elect chosen ain’t gonna complain. Meanwhile 98% of the world including 90% Christians if they only knew how tyrannical the real truth is.
Daniel 4:35 (how more clear can it be)
All the inhabitants of the earth are counted as NOTHING; He does according to His wants to the inhabitants of the earth. No one can restrain God or say to Him “what have you done God.”
God puts all Kings in power even Hitler.
Daniel 4:17(did you know this?)
the Most High is sovereign over all kingdoms on earth and gives them to anyone he wishes and sets over them the basest(evil) of men.”
God says even tho he has two people that are in the same boat and he partially hates one and loves the other it’s not unjust because He is God
11Yet before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad, in order that God’s plan of electing Jacob will happen as He wants 12 not by their works but only Gods choice. It was said the older will serve the younger.
13So it is written: “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”e 14 So Is God unjust? Certainly not! 15For He says I will have mercy on whoever I want to have mercy on.
16 So then it doesn’t matter on mans choice, but only God choosing mercy on whom ever He wills.
Esau and his descendants are hated forever no matter what they do for the reason to show Israel they were chosen and loved. This is in the Bible. Total partiality and an entire human people condemned forever. Same with vessels of wrath that Gid makes them and tortured them no matter if they even want God for the only purpose so to show how much special and blessed vessels of mercy are. If every human on earth knew that to be true, they would say that is total evil to have two people and torture one forever to show the other that they are loved cause they were chosen for mercy and not torture!!!
There are so many countless verses that are exclusive contradicting that Gid invites ALL men and loves ALL men. A person does not choose elect appoint call or draw themself to be saved. Everytime in bible those words are used it says God does it. So God can’t choose ahd man choose at the same time.
Mathematically, if the prophecies are fixed can’t be changed (we know this true) then it is impossible for man to have free will. If we have free will we could change the prophecies and Satan had free will he would have already ruled the earth. If he can only do what Gid allows then he is controlled.
More so. If God controls chooses every king governor and authority and he creates and destroys every nation since beginning, then mathematically it is impossible for man to have free will. God cobtrols every thing and person like robots. Even Satan and demons. God says his plans will and purpose always happen. Because he controls every single thing.
So if you knew that the God of all controls and creates every single thing and He puts 98% of his man creation in torture of hell without them having chance of being saved because they sin when he created them to sin, what would the world say about that situation?
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Shawn
Oct 20, 2020
Proof Gods Chosen Elect Israel Are only loved by God the rest are “Accounted as Nothing”
Proof Gods Chosen Elect Israel Are only loved by God the rest are “Accounted as Nothing”
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Cryn- I totally understand the thought that no way God can control every detail and people when you give the examples like you do that show clear storyline of people choosing in Bible. If you take an honest look and read slowly and carefully not real fast I will show you it really is true tho and that He does control them and decisions. Micah 1 What You Said of ESAU- God Does Hate The descendants to this day. 4Though Edom may say, “We have been devastated, but we will rebuild the ruins,” this is what the LORD says, They will be called the Land ofWickedness, and a people with whom the LORD is indignant(wrathful) forever. God Himself Choosing Who He Loves(saves) and Hates(condems Romans 9:11-15- Please Read the verses for yourself God says the statement “before the twins were born and did anything good or bad I loved Jacob and I hated Esau” He sovereignly chose to love one and hate the other for the purpose of Gods plan of election(choosing each one for the purpose He has for them). He makes the statement “before they were born” to let people know that it did not matter if Jacob or Esau did bad toward God or good toward God after they were born because He already had a divine plan of electing each for a unique purpose before they were born. That divine plan was appointing Jacob(israel) to love forever and Esau(edom) to hate forever as His and Israel’s enemy. That’s why the next verse makes it so clear this is really the case and He knows will be a shock to people because He says, “So is God unjust for doing this? (to choose people to hate and love no matter what they do or before they even were born) He says, “I am not unjust because I told Moses that I will have mercy on whoever I want to and I will harden the hearts of whoever I want” Later in the chapter it says men will object to how bad this is. And they will say, “well how God can you fault people that you create yourself to be hardened sinners and vessels of wrath with no chance of salvation? And when they can’t resist the will you have for them? God says, “Who are you O Man as my creation to talk back to God? Do I not have the right as almighty God the creator to make my creations(vessels) for honor(salvation love) or dishonor(condemnation hate) if I want to? Vessel Definitions Mercy and honor= loved saved delivered free person Wrath and dishonor(hardened)= hated condemned bondaged person Example showing people and all Bible events are controlled and determined beforehand according to the purpose of His will. Acts 4:26 Why do the nations rage and the peoples plot in vain? 26The kings of the earth take their stand and the rulers gather together against the Lord and against His Anointed One. 27In fact, this is the very city where Herod and Pontius Pilate conspired with the Gentiles and the people of Israel against Your holy servant Jesus, whom You anointed. 28They carried out what Your hand and will had decided beforehand would happen. References of God Choosing and Being Sovereign Control over Kings, Every Authority on Earth, Every Country on Earth, Every War, and People. These verses are proclamations and facts that cannot be contradicted so should always be foundation to build understanding from. NATIONS AND AUTHORITIES Daniel 4:17 "'The decision is announced by messengers, the holy ones declare the verdict, so that the living people may know that the Most High is sovereign over all kingdoms on earth and gives them to anyone he wishes and sets over them the basest(evil,corrupt,lowest) of men.” Romans 31:1 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. CONTROL OF ISRAEL Jeremiah 18:6, "O house of Israel, cannot I do with you as this potter? saith the Lord. Behold, as the clay is in the potter's hand, so are you in my hand, Acts17:26 and He made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined their appointed times and the boundaries of their habitation, Colossians 2:10 10And you have been made complete in Christ, who is the head over every ruler and authority. John 19:11 11Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above: Jeremiah 27:5 By My great power and outstretched arm, I made the earth and the men and beasts on the face of it, and I give it to whom I please. Psalms 22:28 28For the kingdom is the LORD'S: and he is the governor among the nations. Isaiah 40:17 All the nations are as nothing before Him; He regards them as nothingness and emptiness. WARS Psalm 46:8-10 Come, behold the works of the Lord, Who has wrought desolations in the earth. He makes wars to cease to the end of the earth; “Cease striving and know that I am God; I will be exalted among the nations, I will be exalted in the earth.” Job 12:23 “He makes the nations great, then destroys them” KINGS Proverbs 21:1 The king's heart is in the hand of the LORD, as the rivers of water: he turns it whichever way He pleases. Daniel 2:20 21And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: REGULAR PEOPLE Psalms 139:15 when I was made in secret, when I was woven together in the depths of the earth. all my days were written in Your book and ordained for me before one of them came to be. Jeremiah 10:23 I know, O Lord, that the way of man is not in himself, that it is not in man who walks to direct his steps. Proverbs 20:24 A man's steps are from the Lord; Proverbs 19:21 Many are the plans in the mind of a man, but it is the purpose of the Lord that will stand. Job 23:14-16 But He is unchangeable; who can oppose Him? He does what He desires. He will certainly accomplish what He has decreed for me Proverbs 16:23 The lot is cast into the lap, but its every decision is from the Lord. Deuteronomy 32:39 39See now that I am He; there is no God besides Me. I bring death and I give life; I wound and I heal, Daniel 4:35 All the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing; He does according to His will. No one can restrain Gods hand or say to Him, “what have you done?” Lamentations 3:37 Who can speak and have it happen if the Lord has not decreed it?